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February 2nd 2010, 16:11 CET by Trunks

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#4 by Gabe
2010-02-02 17:16:33
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I'll take a rainy Miami Superbowl if it works out like it did last time.
#5 by yotsuya
2010-02-02 17:50:41
Relax, the Colts are gonna win.

#6 by lwf
2010-02-02 19:24:34
They gonna lose.

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#7 by Shadarr
2010-02-02 19:45:57
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I don't really care who wins, and I'm gonna have to leave around 4 to go play hockey anyway.  Go teams!

"I hope you one day decide to smarten the fuck up so I can stand to look at your posts." - gaggle
#8 by Trunks
2010-02-02 20:30:26
So is anyone going to try and head up to Vancouver to watch the Olympics?

#9 by Shadarr
2010-02-02 20:36:10
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God no.  I'm just hoping we don't get many spillover tourists here.

"I hope you one day decide to smarten the fuck up so I can stand to look at your posts." - gaggle
#10 by Chunkstyle
2010-02-02 20:53:22
Go Saints!

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#11 by Trunks
2010-02-02 21:23:30
Vick wants to be starter in 2010, says he's among top 10 QBs in NFL, may be traded:

Eagles backup quarterback Michael Vick said yesterday he wants to be a starter in the NFL next season and that it would be difficult for him to return to the same role he had in Philadelphia.

"Me and my agent spoke briefly about 2 days ago [about the Eagles being willing to let him out of the final year of his contract]," Vick said on Dan Patrick's radio show. "He's just trying to get an understanding on what we thought was the best-case scenario and how we should approach the situation in regards to being respectful. We thought that was important. We didn't put a timetable on it but it should happen pretty soon. So, we'll see."

A league source told the Daily News last week that coach Andy Reid told Vick he will be traded before April's draft. At last week's Senior Bowl, several teams expressed curiosity about Vick, who should bring at least a fourth-round pick in a trade.

Vick, for whom the Eagles hold a club option for 1 more year for $5 million, was asked if he could play the same backup role with the Eagles next year.

"It would be a tough decision to make," he said. "I would really have to take a lot of things into consideration, the fact that I want to be a starter and the fact that I'm blessed just to be back playing football. If I had to [be a backup], I would. If another opportunity presented itself, then it would be even better.


"I would really have to think about it. But for the most part, I like the coaching staff. I like the people around here, within the organization. Maybe I would do it. Who knows? I'm still kinda young. It may work out."

Vick, who will turn 30 in June, then went back on his previous statement about returning as a backup. "As I think about it now, getting back to your previous question, it would be fairly hard [to return to the Eagles as a backup]," he said. "I know I can play in this league. I know I still have a lot of games left in me. I can be improved and be in shape and have an opportunity to go play somewhere else in the league. I'm just being optimistic and hoping that things work out in my favor. To be honest, I do want to play."

Vick, who noted how difficult it was to play "sporadically" as he did last season, was asked by Patrick where he ranks among current NFL quarterbacks. "I still feel like I'm among the top 10, to be honest. I'm confident in my skills," Vick said.

Vick said he wouldn't be surprised if Donovan McNabb returns next season. "He's proven himself year in and year out," Vick said. "The ultimate goal is to win the Super Bowl. Looking back at John Elway's career, it took him 15, 16 years [to win a Super Bowl]. Donovan and Andy have a great relationship. It wouldn't surprise me if he's back."

Trading Vick wouldn't preclude trading McNabb but it could make the decision more difficult. Trading both quarterbacks would leave the Birds with only Kevin Kolb, the least experienced of the three.

Vick also talked with Patrick about his time in federal prison. Vick served 18 months on dogfighting charges.

"A lot of guys were kind of star-struck when I came in. They really didn't think I was going to come into prison," Vick said. "I had altercations . . . it's not out of the norm in prison. Guys challenge you because of who you are. Your status."


#12 by Matt Perkins
2010-02-02 22:12:52
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I think a team will take a chance on him this year. There are more than a few teams who couldn't be worse with him...

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#13 by Matt Perkins
2010-02-02 22:13:01
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Also, go Colts.

"Fucking Radio Shack. It's a wonder they even know how to use a bathroom and don't just walk around all day with shit in their pants." - smds
"the concept that a happy worker is a productive worker is hardly an entry from Matt's Big Book Of Things The Fairies Said." - Dum
#14 by Shadarr
2010-02-02 22:14:50
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Top 10?  Ell.  Oh.  Ell.

Even at the top of his game, he was a pretty mediocre passer.  Off the top of my head, a loose ranking of guys way better than Vick:

Peyton Manning
Drew Brees
Brett Favre*
Tom Brady
Kurt Warner*
Philip Rivers
Matt Ryan
Carson Palmer
Aaron Rodgers
Matt Schaub
Donofan McNabb
Ben Roethlisberger
Eli Manning
Tony Romo
Jay Cutler
Vince Young

* maybe retired

That's 16 names, and I'm not even the close to entertaining arguments that Vick is better than any of them.  I think it's questionable whether Vick is better than guys like Joe Flacco, Alex Smith and Matt Leinart.

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#15 by Matt Perkins
2010-02-02 22:16:31
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Of course he's not top 10. He was barely in the top ten in his prime. He is top 30 and almost definitely top 20 and that puts him on the radar of more than a few teams. Especially with his potential.

"Fucking Radio Shack. It's a wonder they even know how to use a bathroom and don't just walk around all day with shit in their pants." - smds
"the concept that a happy worker is a productive worker is hardly an entry from Matt's Big Book Of Things The Fairies Said." - Dum
#16 by Shadarr
2010-02-02 22:18:36
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I'm not convinced he's top 20.  Especially when you consider guys like Sanchez and Stafford, who although they may not be fully developed have way more upside than 30-year-old ex-con Vick.  Maybe he can play for the Raiders, though.  How's his deep ball?  Can he overthrow Heyward-Bey?  Al Davis would probably sign him on the spot if he can.

"I hope you one day decide to smarten the fuck up so I can stand to look at your posts." - gaggle
#17 by yotsuya
2010-02-02 22:25:59
30 is too old to be a QB with potential.

#18 by Shadarr
2010-02-02 22:49:17
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Especially if it's going to cost $5 million plus something in a trade.

"I hope you one day decide to smarten the fuck up so I can stand to look at your posts." - gaggle
#19 by eggbert
2010-02-02 23:43:44
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The full statement is less egotistical then the headline makes it seem (of course he wants to be a starter, every backup in the league, except maybe Jim Sorgi, wants to be a starter), but yeah top 10 is silly. It's not all that shocking to hear a player overrate themselves though, I bet JaMarcus Russell and Derek Anderson thinks they're top 10 in skills too.
#20 by Shadarr
2010-02-03 00:00:09
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I'm not convince JaWalrus can count to 10.

"I hope you one day decide to smarten the fuck up so I can stand to look at your posts." - gaggle
#21 by Trunks
2010-02-03 00:03:47
Maybe not, but he CAN be crowned King Elexis I in Alabama!

#22 by Greg
2010-02-03 00:25:56
Vick was a strange pickup for the Eagles last year. I suspect it was more "we can bring him back into the league at a cheap price and with little pressure." I can easily see them parting ways before next year.

I would like to see the Colts win, if only because of that idiotic phrase of the Saints fans.

#23 by Squeaky
2010-02-03 00:39:47
#8 by Trunks

So is anyone going to try and head up to Vancouver to watch the Olympics?

I live just outside of Vancouver and I'm not going anywhere near the city for 2 weeks.

#24 by lwf
2010-02-03 01:16:39
So business as usual then.

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#25 by Shadarr
2010-02-03 01:25:24
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Greg (#22):
Vick was a strange pickup for the Eagles last year. I suspect it was more "we can bring him back into the league at a cheap price and with little pressure." I can easily see them parting ways before next year.

If they can get something in a trade, it's a free draft pick so bully for them.  I don't know whether that was their strategy going in but it might work out that way.  And the way the Eagles routinely wind up with extra picks, I'd tend to give them the benefit of the doubt.  It was a pretty low-risk gamble for them.

"I hope you one day decide to smarten the fuck up so I can stand to look at your posts." - gaggle
#26 by Squeaky
2010-02-03 01:42:47
#24 by lwf

So business as usual then.

More or less.

#27 by yotsuya
2010-02-03 02:28:17
From ESPN:

You Have Seen Something Like Them/In Many Amusement Halls: This year's Super Bowl halftime act is The Who, a band that would be eligible for Medicare if its members were American -- Roger Daltrey is 65, Pete Townshend is about to turn 65. Now, I like senior citizens who scream into microphones as much as the next guy, but isn't the Super Bowl halftime format getting a bit geriatric? Last year we got Bruce Springsteen, age 60. The year before -- Tom Petty, age 59. Yes, recent halftime shows have been more up-tempo than the 1970 Super Bowl halftime act: Carol Channing. But there have got to be some younger groups out there that merit the Super Bowl stage, and could broaden the appeal to those younger than the Baby Boomer demographic.


#28 by jjohnsen
2010-02-03 02:52:09
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#8 by Trunks
So is anyone going to try and head up to Vancouver to watch the Olympics?

I've been working 12 hour days for a month on Super Bowl and Olympics stuff.  I've lost interest in both events.

#29 by Shadarr
2010-02-03 03:18:46
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I saw in the paper today that an official Team USA Olympic fleece jacket costs $875.  Seriously?  Are there really that many people who will pay a completely ridiculous price for the official logo when you can probably get a generic USA fleece free with an oil change?

"I hope you one day decide to smarten the fuck up so I can stand to look at your posts." - gaggle
#30 by Trunks
2010-02-03 04:11:13
Joey Porter wants out of Miami, wants to sign with SF, SD or AZ:

FORT LAUDERDALE, Fla. -- Four-time Pro Bowl linebacker Joey Porter would look good in a 49ers or Cardinals uniform.

That's how Porter sees things, anyway.

Porter, upset with the Miami Dolphins over a diminished role in 2009, spoke his mind Tuesday during an interview with Miami radio station WQAM.

The Dolphins own Porter's rights through the 2011 season, but they may release him before paying a $1 million roster bonus next month. Porter would then be free to sign with another team. He went to high school in Bakersfield, Calif., and told WQAM he wanted to play on the West Coast for a team with a 3-4 defensive scheme. He specifically named the 49ers, Cardinals and Chargers.

Cardinals coach Ken Whisenhunt and some assistants worked for the Steelers when Porter played in Pittsburgh. Porter, 32, would not help the Cardinals get younger at a position where advanced age was an issue last season. But if the fit and price were right, Porter could be worth the investment.

Porter had 9.0 sacks for the Dolphins last season and 17.5 for them in 2008.


#31 by Trunks
2010-02-03 06:19:15
TNT NBA crew rips into JaMarcus Russell during Suns game.

#32 by yotsuya
2010-02-03 06:52:23
I love the JaMarcus Russell action figure hanging around his neck.

#33 by None-1a
2010-02-03 07:25:53
#29 by Shadarr
I saw in the paper today that an official Team USA Olympic fleece jacket costs $875.  Seriously?  Are there really that many people who will pay a completely ridiculous price for the official logo when you can probably get a generic USA fleece free with an oil change?


Or your paper is full of it seeing that even the Ralph Lauren designed stuff doesn't come anywhere close to that.

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#34 by yotsuya
2010-02-03 15:05:27
That must be in CDN Loonies.

#35 by Matt Perkins
2010-02-03 16:09:22
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Joey Porter still has a LOT left in him. I'd take him on any of those teams if I had any need at linebacker at all.

"Fucking Radio Shack. It's a wonder they even know how to use a bathroom and don't just walk around all day with shit in their pants." - smds
"the concept that a happy worker is a productive worker is hardly an entry from Matt's Big Book Of Things The Fairies Said." - Dum
#36 by jjohnsen
2010-02-03 16:44:13
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#29 by Shadarr
I saw in the paper today that an official Team USA Olympic fleece jacket costs $875.  Seriously?  Are there really that many people who will pay a completely ridiculous price for the official logo when you can probably get a generic USA fleece free with an oil change?

When the games were in Salt Lake people lined up for hours to buy a stupid Team U.S.A. beanie for $25.

#37 by Shadarr
2010-02-03 17:11:26
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#33 by None-1a


Or your paper is full of it seeing that even the Ralph Lauren designed stuff doesn't come anywhere close to that.

I think they were talking about prices at the games, but hopefully it was a misprint.

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#38 by Trunks
2010-02-04 01:11:27
NFL/NFLPA labor situation in a nutshell

We'll likely see an uncapped 2010 season, and if no new CBA is figured out before March 2011 a lockout is highly likely. At the very least, I do hope some sort of rookie salary cap system is agreed upon.

How did we get here?

The players got the upper hand on the owners in 2006, the last time they hashed out a CBA. The players were able to renegotiate what revenues were considered a part of the financial pie, from which they would receive about 60 percent.

The salary cap skyrocketed from $80 million per team in 2005 to $102 million the next year. In each subsequent season, the cap climbed to about $109 million, $116 million and $128 million for the 2009 season. The salary floor -- the amount of money teams are forced to spend -- was $112 million this season, or $32 million more than the highest ceiling under the previous CBA. By doing so, the owners froze the percentage of revenues dedicated to player costs at 57.5 percent.

In 2008, the owners voted unanimously to exercise a clause that allowed either side to opt out of the CBA one or two years early.

What does the league want?

The owners' objective is to retain more revenues, because they're assuming virtually all of the risk in this business venture. Their mission statement is that they want to provide long-term stability and growth opportunities, but their margins are thinning because of the U.S. economy. Sponsorship dollars are scarcer. There were 22 blackouts this season, up from nine in 2008. Money has been sunk into stadiums and practice facilities.

At the top of the league's wish list is an 18 percent rollback in salaries and a rookie salary cap that would redirect money to proven talent rather than players who might not have what it takes. Another way for the owners to grow the revenue pie would be expanding the regular season to 18 games.

What does the NFL Players Association want?

Maintaining the status quo would be just fine with the players.

What would an uncapped year mean in 2010?

It sounds like an uncapped year would favor the players, because it gives the impression that freewheeling owners would start throwing money around in their quest for a Super Bowl title. But the uncapped year is a bit of a misnomer. It's true there wouldn't be a salary cap. Deep-pocketed teams such as the Dallas Cowboys, Washington Redskins and New England Patriots could spend as much as they want. But in reality there would be no financial limitations at all. Teams would have no salary floor to maintain, although minimum individual player salaries still would need to be met. The salary floor for 2009 was about $108 million.

How would the uncapped year affect free agency for the upcoming season?

These changes would be unfavorable for the players. The requirement to be eligible for unrestricted free agency would jump from four years to six. Rather than being allowed to hit the open market, 212 players would be restricted free agents instead. Teams have the right of first refusal on restricted free agents and would receive draft compensation if they chose not to match the offer.

Some of the bigger names who would have been unrestricted but would not be in an uncapped year include Denver Broncos receiver Brandon Marshall and outside linebacker Elvis Dumervil, San Diego Chargers receiver Vincent Jackson and linebacker Shawne Merriman, Houston Texans linebacker DeMeco Ryans and Cowboys receiver Miles Austin.

How would an uncapped year affect franchise and transition tags?

Teams could further limit free agency because, in an uncapped season, they may place an extra transition tag on a player. Normally, a team can place one franchise tag or one transition tag on a player each offseason. In an uncapped year, they can place franchise and transition tags or two transition tags on players.

A franchise tag is a guaranteed one-year contract offer that pays a player a salary that averages the five highest-paid at his position, or 120 percent of the tagged player's previous salary. If the player is allowed to negotiate with other teams and reaches an agreement the original team declines to match, the player's new team must fork over two first-round draft choices as compensation.

A transition tag averages the 10 highest-paid at his position. Other teams can sign a transition player to an offer sheet. The original club has the right of first refusal, but if it declines to match, it receives no draft compensation.

What other changes would there be when it comes to player acquisitions?

An interesting quirk to the uncapped season is what's being called the "Final Eight Plan," which pertains only to the teams that reached the divisional playoffs. These teams would face added constraints for free agency, and the four teams that reached the conference title games would be even more limited.

In essence, none of the eight (Colts, Baltimore Ravens, New York Jets, Chargers, Saints, Arizona Cardinals, Minnesota Vikings and Cowboys) would be able to sign an unrestricted free agent until they lost one, and the salaries of the incoming and outgoing players must be similar.

The four teams that lost in the divisional round (Ravens, Chargers, Cardinals and Cowboys) would be permitted to sign one unrestricted free agent for as much as $5.5 million in his first season and an unlimited number of unrestricted free agents who can make no more than $3.7 million in the first seasons of their contracts.


#39 by lwf
2010-02-04 01:23:19
What, just because rookies are a bunch of incompetent nincompoops?

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#40 by Greg
2010-02-04 16:17:53
Test

#41 by Squeaky
2010-02-05 02:19:10
fail

#42 by Trunks
2010-02-05 04:33:53
owned

#43 by BobJustBob
2010-02-05 20:31:38
My apartment complex is having a super bowl party at the clubhouse. They say they have a 16' by 9' TV and there will be free beer, hot wings, and pizza.

BUYBUYBUY
#44 by yotsuya
2010-02-05 20:44:50
Nice. You should go.

#45 by Trunks
2010-02-06 01:58:49
Patriots won't have any coordinators in 2010:

In a move straight out of the leather-helmet era, the New England Patriots have revealed they won't have any coordinators for 2010. No offensive, no defensive, no special teams.

The news came to light on the team's official Web site. The Patriots didn't have an offensive coordinator last year. They parted ways with defensive coordinator Dean Pees last month and apparently won't replace him, choosing to spread the duties with no designated helmsman.

"Titles are fine, nothing wrong with them, but the most important thing is each person's role, that we do everything we can to help the players succeed -- everyone collectively getting the job done," Belichick said in the Web story.


Quarterbacks coach Bill O'Brien handled most of the play-calling responsibilities last year after Josh McDaniels left to become head coach of the Denver Broncos. McDaniels, who had a similar combo role after Charlie Weis left for Notre Dame, was given the title of offensive coordinator after a year of calling plays. O'Brien apparently won't be elevated likewise.


#46 by lwf
2010-02-06 02:01:49
Makes it harder for other teams to figure out who to poach, I guess?

Handsome like a coat hanger. Wii.
#47 by Shadarr
2010-02-06 02:21:52
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Belichick is probably just getting more paranoid and controlling now that things are starting to unravel.

"I hope you one day decide to smarten the fuck up so I can stand to look at your posts." - gaggle
#48 by Matt Perkins
2010-02-06 03:50:09
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Nine!

"Fucking Radio Shack. It's a wonder they even know how to use a bathroom and don't just walk around all day with shit in their pants." - smds
"the concept that a happy worker is a productive worker is hardly an entry from Matt's Big Book Of Things The Fairies Said." - Dum
#49 by yotsuya
2010-02-07 01:11:57
Congrats to former Arizona Cardinals Running Back Emmitt Smith, who was elected to the Hall of Fame today. He may have played for some other team as well.

#50 by yotsuya
2010-02-07 01:26:16
I've actually been trolling the Cowboys lovers I know by sending that message out along with a huge photo of Emmitt in his Cardinals jersey.

#51 by Shadarr
2010-02-07 06:11:53
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Heh, nice.

"I hope you one day decide to smarten the fuck up so I can stand to look at your posts." - gaggle
#52 by CheesyPoof
2010-02-07 17:37:46
Super Bowl hype level: Boring.

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#53 by CheesyPoof
2010-02-07 17:37:58
I am not watching any of the 10 hours of pre-game.

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